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Mo
01-28-2005, 10:04 AM
I was wondering:

1. Where is the No. 1 watch from Howard David & Dennison kept?

2. Where is the only known Pitkin?

3. Where/what is Anbahein--where the 1976 centennial exhibition was? Is that Anaheim? What was it the centennial of?

4. Jon, if you've been a collector for 47 years, doesn't that mean you started in 1957???? Isnt that the centennial of the bankruptcy of the Boston Watch Co.? Are you a descendant of Royal Robbins?

Just wondering....

Moj

Jon
01-28-2005, 10:45 AM
smithsonian

JH v vault at the Bank (read my story on my web page?)

national convention Anaheim, Calif

a yes

b no

Fred Hansen
01-28-2005, 11:41 AM
Number one ...

http://historywired.si.edu/images/enlarged/200a.jpg

... and this picture is located somewhere on the Smithsonian website.

Fred

Jon
01-28-2005, 12:59 PM
anybody have a scan or pohoto of my unique Pitkin?

I lost all mine or gave them away--even my 1976 cat!

http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Tom McIntyre
01-28-2005, 03:07 PM
I found the book today Jon. I will scan it later this evening. Send the watch over and I will make you some nice pictures. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tom McIntyre
01-28-2005, 03:11 PM
A few more less desirable Pitkins have shown up since Jon found his. This one was displayed at the 2002 Seminar.

Pitkin # 164 (http://www.awco.org/Seminar2002/Precursor/PitkinBack.jpg)

Jon
01-28-2005, 04:12 PM
IN THE SNOW?

BUT, MY ORIGINAL 35MM WERE GREAT B AND Ws!http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jon
01-28-2005, 04:16 PM
Tom, you didn't read my piece on PITKIN--Henry's example discovery preceedes mine by 30-40 years and is the worst example known.

And, I have more than one--in fact I have four different!http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Henry Pitkin is a unique one and the grade/type made--it is unique with the Henry signature (after its inventor). Mine is also skeletonized, as made!

Tom McIntyre
01-29-2005, 06:12 AM
Jon, I read it but the number slipped my mind. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The theory I have heard is that the dies were not all that good and wore out as the watches were produced so the skeletonization was dropped. That makes some sense.

I still think we should make some better photographs of your Pitkins. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jon
01-29-2005, 07:32 AM
hI tOM,

IT WAS NOT THE NUMBER BUT THE DATES OF THE DISCOVERIES!

SURE, OK, ON THE PICTURES BUT I ALSO HAVE THOUSANDS OF OTHER PHOTOS TO DO ALSO!http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif:

Mo
01-29-2005, 10:34 AM
Oldwatch's online museum has a " W Pitkin Hartford Lever fusee Pocket Watch Movement."

Why was it named "W. Pitkin"? The number on the watch is 41916. What does the number mean, if the Pitkins only made 500 watches.

It doesn't look at all like Tom's no.164 (thanks for posting that, Tom),

Modersohn

Jon
01-29-2005, 10:50 AM
That's because it is NOT A PITKIN!!!!!!!!!

There were only 50 Henry Pitkins made; the second run were H and J F Pitkin (two types); and the third was made in New York and different altogether, with one sub variety.

This sounds like another worthless BS book and needs NOT TO BE BOUGHT or READ.

Jon
01-29-2005, 10:56 AM
Certainly the skeletonized watches were more expensive to make, so they abandoned them into the second run.

Mo
01-29-2005, 05:34 PM
Let me ask: if there are 50 HP watches, how many J & H P watches exist? If they used machinery, how were they able to save money by making a different type of watch? Did the watches share certain characteristics?

I also read on the Oldwatch.com site that after they moved to NYCity, (at 116 Fulton St.) they concentrated on making cases. After the PItkins died, an employee of the PItkins, Amariah Hells continued to make cases until 1852. Have the cases survived?


There doesn't seem to be much information about Pitkins watches out there. There's an article in a 1986 nawcc bulletin, but it's hard to find 1980's bulletins in general. Frustrating.

Mo

Jon
01-29-2005, 07:45 PM
You will just have to wait for my monograph!