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Jon
02-13-2005, 08:36 AM
I have been alerted that a rare movement I recently sold has a problem--a metal dial (which was described)!

I would like to point out that I find it interesting that there has been no discussion here on web horology or the 149 site and I am very curious as to why this is? (bearing in mind that the buyer has not said a word to me about any problem).

Since I have the largest collection (probably) of these watches/movements I also find it interesting that no one has come forward to me privately or seems to want to discuss it or its provonance. I stand 1000% behind my sales (all) and I might add that I had three others that wanted this rare movement.

It also is appearant that the "gorilla group" click wants to discuss this stuff in secret; therefore, I shall not offer any further info either--quid pro quo, my friends............

Larry DS
02-13-2005, 09:48 AM
Well, there never were any questions or complaints by me, and there never will be. IT's a beautiful watch and dial and I'm very happy to have had the opportunity to purchase it. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Larry

Jon
02-13-2005, 09:59 AM
Thanks Larry--maybe you can picture it here on web horology?

Larry DS
02-13-2005, 10:05 AM
I intend to post pictures here Jon, but I want to take better photos. The ones I have are not worthy.

Larry

Jon
02-13-2005, 10:36 AM
THIS IS A WONDERFUL ITEM AND WORTHY OF A GREAT PICTURE!

IT IS RARE AND VERY DESIRABLE, LARRY S WAS THE SMART ONE THAT RECOGNIZED THIS ITEM AND I AM PLEASED THAT HE GOT FOR HIS COLLECTION.

Tom McIntyre
02-13-2005, 01:15 PM
There was no remark on the 185 Board that the watch was in any way unworthy. Larry likes the 1930 vintage dial on it and I remarked that I prefered the enamel dial. Jerry Treiman showed a picture of the correct dial.

The watch is sufficiently rare that the dial does not really matter. My open face example has an unsigned enamel dial.

Jon
02-13-2005, 01:51 PM
of course, there is info that Dr Tom isn't telling or doesnlt know!http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

doc ron
02-13-2005, 06:02 PM
maybe the paranoia is getting worse over there

Mo
02-13-2005, 10:23 PM
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!!!

What information???

Information about what???

I think the watch looks v nice. If there's any more interesting information about it, I'd like to know. I

Mo

Tom McIntyre
02-14-2005, 05:55 AM
I am afraid Jon has me there. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I know the HC are scarcer than the OF.

I know that the signature is really strange. It is the same signature as is found on the ones originally sold to E. Howard & Co., but Jerry T. found the bill of sale at the Baker Library and it shows they were actually sold to Keystone in 1904.

Is there something else? All of that was presented by Jerry in the open discussion on 185.

Jon
02-14-2005, 07:05 AM
1 where the watch came from

2 from whom

3 cross over member participating on WH, the enemy

4 irked people who missed out on the opportunity to acquire

5 informational *****s

6 discussion in secrecy

7 opposition ignorance

Larry DS
02-14-2005, 09:01 AM
3 cross over member participating on WH, the enemy The enemy??? Who's the enemy? I'm not the enemy. I may have been a secret double agent in my former life, but where horology is concerned, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all participating in the discussion of watches. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I'm a fence sitting neutral always carrying an olive branch. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Larry

Jon
02-14-2005, 09:16 AM
Come on, Larry, you can't be that naive--Sam Kirk and web horology is the enemy!

Larry DS
02-14-2005, 09:24 AM
Sam Kirk and Web Horology are not my enemies. I suppose then this makes me the enemy. http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://webhorology-mb.infopop.cc/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Larry

Jon
02-14-2005, 09:33 AM
Larry,

You do not understand--WH is the world/s enemy!

JohnL
03-01-2005, 04:57 PM
I once had an original ferguson dial for a Howard Waltham. I wish I kept it, It would have gone nicely on this movement that Larry bought.

At least it sounds like it would have....

OF movement.

shoulda woulda coulda...