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12-03-2005, 02:33 PM
I don't know how the English managed to use dials on their watches that could make it to the year 2006 without a hair line, crack, or chips. Waltham did pretty good with their dials. Howard (not to sure about).........

What is your oldest unblemished dial in your collection?

WM Robinson 2534 (circa 1842)

12-03-2005, 03:01 PM
Tompion--but it is gold! :D

12-03-2005, 05:51 PM
58xxx Elgin SS dial on a 7 jewel

Jacob Bunn
12-04-2005, 08:42 PM
Three watches.

English Fusee-1853
AW co model 57 SN 422,066
Elgin JT Ryerson, SN 123,685

S Mercer
12-11-2005, 08:26 AM
Since I only collect Waltham Model 83's, mine won't be as old as others. This dial is on a Crescent St. serial number 2672658, produced in 1885. The movement is in the serial number list as lever set, open face, but it is actually dual setting with both the lever or pendent being able to set the time properly.

12-14-2005, 07:41 AM
Interesting Steve, is there a switch on the movemet for pendent set or lever set?


S Mercer
12-15-2005, 08:00 AM

No switch on the movement. The lever is at the 10 minute mark and the pendant works like any other pendant set.

The dual setting model 83's have the yoke spring for pendant setting, part 733 and have the lever. An 83 that is only lever set has the yoke spring part number 732. (Part numbers out of the 1885 materials catalogue)

12-15-2005, 09:18 AM
Thanks for sharing. I really have not heard or read about this feature on a Waltham. One learns something new everyday in 149. Neat watch movement.