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Unread 08-03-2007, 09:42 PM
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Jon, your unique '57 is probably both. So what specificaly is correct in the article?
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Unread 08-04-2007, 10:17 AM
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Since I cannot edit, the previous question should have asked what is incorrect and not what is correct.
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Unread 08-04-2007, 10:37 AM
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"One of" (a kind) many times could be either a prototype, a model or an experimental. 5, 10 or so of exact movements can hardly be called experimentals. OR, WHY WOULD AN EXPERIMENT BE MASS DUPLICATED?
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Unread 08-06-2007, 08:27 AM
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To test the repeatability of the manufacturing and assembly processes.
Even in today's manufacturing environment - particularly the medical sect - it is still a NECESSITY to test multiple prototypes in order verify and validate a design and manufacturing flow process as being both ACCURATE and REPEATABLE. Not to mention to verify COST$$$.
Rewind 150 years to manual machinery and rudimentary assembly methods - does it still surprise you that their engineering wouldn't want to create multiple prototypes in order to ,try, prove, verify, & validate their manufacturing and assembly methods??!!

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My aforementioned text explains the very reason why these probably DID NOT go into higher production volumes.
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Unread 08-06-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default what is the experiment?

Crisp, unused watches of which there are a number do not qualify as experiments! An experiment to do what? (see of they run, see of they sell, see if there is a demand?) UNFINISHED OR WELL WORKED ON, ALTERED COULD QUALIFY.
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Unread 08-06-2007, 10:06 AM
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What would ther members call a single specimen or two just made? Or, three? Ten or twenty?
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Unread 08-06-2007, 10:54 AM
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Wholly dependent on the intention of the production process - if it was test a process, then it could be called experimental. If it was a proven design and made for retail then it is standard production...
If there is only one known to exith then it is truly "unique."

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Unread 08-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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is it then an experimental?
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Default Cased?

Have all reported thus far been cased, and are the cases identical or different? If identical or uncased, I would consider them experimental - probably difficult to determine no doubt with the last 20 years' reign of the switching clowns.
My belief - the fact that these are in NOS condition further supports the fact that they were never distributed to the general market - probably sat in a vault at Howard or somewhere else until they were discovered and sold off at a later date - thoughts??

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Unread 08-06-2007, 01:32 PM
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cased but at least one was possibly switched

all absolutely identical

one well used

2 near new

but there are other runs of oddball stuff

For example a new Helical has just turned up with a special escapement--absolutely one of a kind! This one could be experimental.

(B, send me the serial no of the new series one)
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